96 K-ROCK Rockwave Festival
Ft. Myers, FL
Photos By: Jay Rybak
96 K-ROCK Rockwave Festival
Ft. Myers, FL
Photos By: Jay Rybak
96 K-ROCK Rockwave Festival
Ft. Myers, FL
Photos By: Jay Rybak
For every art form there are “rules”, for every “rule” there are exceptions. Richard Patrick has been making such exceptions, and defying convention for 20 plus years now. Given the tremendous success he has achieved with his band, Filter, it came as no surprise that my interview with he and his guitarist Jonny Radtke was nothing less than extraordinary.
One of the first things every good journalist is taught is to always control the interview. There are, however, rare occasions where brilliance comes to life by simply listening, and enjoying the rants of a charismatic individual. I invite you to sit back and relax, and enjoy one of the most unconventional, yet enjoyable conversations with rock n roll royalty as we talk about everything from addiction, to a-dickhead, who nearly killed Patrick’s wife.
AWAY-TEAM: First and foremost, I’d like to congratulate you on the release of the new album, The Sun Comes Out Tonight, which hits stores June 4th. It’s a great record, I’ve been listening to it non-stop for about a week and a half now, if that tells you anything…
RICHARD PATRICK: Thank You!
JONNY RADTKE: Thank You!
AWAY-TEAM: I’m really impressed with it! Now, I understand this album was originally intended to be released independently, under the title “Gurney & The Burning Books”?…
RICHARD PATRICK: That was always a working title…
JONNY RADTKE: I mean we didn’t know, we were…
RICHARD PATRICK: I told the guy like three times. I was like, ‘This is a working title.’ And he went ‘Oh Burning Books, and da-da’ I was like ‘It’s not really gonna be called Burning Books’
JONNY RADTKE: We were in between tours, when we were initially writing stuff, and we had a few demos under our belt, and at that time it was still premature. We didn’t know where we were gonna be, like as far as what label we were gonna go with, or whatever. So it was sort of just us kinda having the freedom to do whatever we wanted, and that interview, the guy just sort of kinda ran with it. It was just a working title. Obviously when we went into the studio for real, and we were signed by Wind-Up Records, we had obviously a direction we were headed in. Something that we kept in mind throughout the recording process.
AWAY-TEAM: So, I mean is that true? Were you intending to release it independently, and then something came up with Wind-Up? How did that come about?
JONNY RADTKE: I mean, we didn’t know…
RICHARD PATRICK: I think Wind-Up was looking for a signing. Gregg Wattenberg (Wind-Up Co-Owner) has always been a huge fan of my voice… I think they were already pretty… no, we got signed before we wrote “What Do You Say”. We started emailing Gregg Wattenberg, and he had met us once, and said ‘I wanna sign you guys, but I want you to write the fucking rock hit, that like we’ve all been waiting for!’ And it was like ‘Okay’, and we just kinda listened to “Hey Man, Nice Shot” and Short Bus in general. Then Jonny and I sat there with Bob Marlette and pumped out five different parts that we loved, and as they were putting it together in the computer doing drums and stuff, I just started hearing ’Hey, What do you say’. We sent that to the label, and they were like ‘Great! Go in, finish the record. We’d love more hits, but you’ve got your first single, we’ll get this off the ground and, if we have to we’ll just release the single, and you guys can finish the record at your leisure.’ And then they were like ‘No. Finish it, and put on as many radio singles as you can.’ So for us, it was like ‘Okay, let’s make it catchy.’ You know, like “Self-Inflicted” is the other one where we intended to sit down and make something that was…
JONNY RADTKE: The huge impact.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, and the “Hey Man, Nice Shot” big chorus, smaller verse, ya know.
AWAY-TEAM: That kind of answered one of the questions I was gonna get into. Ya know, a lot of guys will go into the studio with something in mind like, ya know, this is gonna be the heaviest record I’ve ever made or…
RICHARD PATRICK: Right.
AWAY-TEAM: And I noticed that, it shows that you went back and listened to Short Bus, and some of the older stuff.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah. Also, Gregg Wattenberg said ‘We need super fucking angry, heavy Filter! We need that. That’s what the label needs, that’s what your audience wants. That’s what Filter needs!’ So I was finally… cuz Bob Marlette is a great producer, and I’m not gonna say anything bad about him. It was kinda like, I want fucking heavy man, I want heavy shit! I was kinda saying that even on The Trouble With Angels, and we always had this bright shiny, glisteney chorus, and I just remember thinking to myself ’I wanna fucking scream my ass off!’ The only song we came close to on that, was “The Inevitable Relapse”. So this was like, ‘Fuck it! Great! Let’s scream a bunch of different choruses on the record, let’s have that screamed out, aggressive sound that everyone wants!’ That left us with a lot of room for “Surprise”, and “First You Break It”, “It’s My Time”, and “It’s Just You”. Then there were others like “We Hate It When You Get What You Wanted” that’s straight up industrial.
AWAY-TEAM: Right. Jonny, I know you’ve been a friend of Rich’s for a while now, but what was it like actually stepping into the studio for the first time with, not only Richard, but a legend in his own right in Bob Marlette?
JONNY RADTKE: It was amazing! It was an amazing experience, we started working on stuff before we went into the studio, and it just felt effortless. We both have the same influences, and we both know where we wanna go as far as songwriting, and what we like and think is cool, and we compliment each other very well. But at the same time it’s surreal sitting next to the dude looking at me, and kinda like ‘Fuck yeah, we’re working on something together’ It’s awesome, it’s amazing! And then, I’ve always known of Bob, and it was my first time working with him, and it was the same thing. The guy just shared our vision, ya know? He understood the kind of album that we needed to make. We bounced a lot of ideas off each other, we were around each other every day, and all the creative juices were flowing. Sometimes you get three people in a room together that… Rich and Bob are accomplished songwriters, and myself; there could be a lot of ego, there could be alot of disagreement, but that wasn’t the case. We were, Rich and I were always on the same page.
RICHARD PATRICK: Bob and I are old enough that we can’t tolerate; we’ve had other people that we’ve worked with and stuff, and it was just like ‘Man this isn’t working.’ Jonny is the kind of guy where he grew up listening to either bands that I’ve respected, or bands that I’m from, or bands that I was currently in and he always kind of respected that. Plus he’s got all the other stuff that I like, that he likes; you know A Perfect Circle, Tool, Pantera, Deftones, Ministry, and he comes from Chicago so there’s the entire scene that was going on there. So, ya know, it either works or it doesn’t, and in this case it was like ‘Hey dude, let’s make this, let’s do that’ and I was like ‘Yeah that’s great!’ and the songs wrote themselves. When it feels like it’s effortless, that’s when you gotta kinda just back up and just… He’s the only person I made a deal with BEFORE we went into the studio. We had already messed around with some songs, and I was like ‘When this record comes out, this is exactly what you’re getting. This is it.’ The ownership of the song is perfectly split. It’s not ‘I’m 60, you’re 40′. It’s not, ya know…
AWAY-TEAM: Right, right. It’s your song, it’s not YOUR song.
JONNY RADTKE: Right.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah. And having said that, here I am singing the vocals, and it’s like ‘Hey, what do you think of this melody?’ (changes voice) ‘Hey maybe try that’ So all of a sudden, it’s just a common good of the best idea wins, and there’s no ego, and it’s all been set in stone. There was nothing to gain from being the guy that wrote the melody and the lyrics, because I’m not going for 50 percent, I’m just going for the common good of the song. So, a lot of stuff like that. Everything is easy, instead of just me. (There’s a knock at the door, and in comes catering with a platter)
AWAY-TEAM: Rich, you’ve been sober for ten years now, which I wanna congratulate you on…
RICHARD PATRICK: Oh, thank you man!
AWAY-TEAM: … I know you’ve had songs in the past that have dealt with addiction issues, “This Finger’s For You” seems like it may be another one, is that true? What was the inspiration behind that song?
RICHARD PATRICK: Umm, that was one of those random kind of songs where it was like I’m upset. I don’t know exactly what started it, but ‘I can’t drink gin. I can’t do some of that.’ I can’t fall back into the old person that I used to be. The drug years, the alcoholic, drug years I call the “Gonzo Years” where I was literally in a Hunter S. Thompson phase of my life. I was trying to press the boundary of mind-altering substances to the point where, ya know, I’m in the middle of “Welcome to the Fold” and the bridge was 17 minutes long as it was. I’m sitting there going ‘Mama gimme my medicine’, and I’m peaking on mushrooms, and I’m trying to describe being a little kid being held up by this giant tree that is my mom, and just freestyling into this weird shit. Trying to capture what it’s like being on just a ton of drugs, in the same way that Dr. Hunter S. Thompson would for any of his books, or any of his reporting. But eventually, you end up not really learning anything, you’ve learned everything and now you’re just a drug addict. So as soon as I started feeling like that I pulled out. And I use the drug years as fodder for so many amazing songs. “The Sun Comes Out Tonight” is about being a “falling through the cracks” type of kid. Good person, but had nothing to do, couldn’t afford anything, I could afford some cheap drugs, and I could walk around the City of Cleveland, Ohio on acid and break into abandoned buildings, and have a look on the city that no one else would have because everybody else is in a club, or in a home, or a movie, or bar or whatever. So, ya know, I’m really proud that I went through that phase because; and then once you get really addicted to drugs and alcohol, then all of a sudden that’s a personal battle, and you gotta fight out of that somehow. It takes a couple years, and then you’re finally grateful that ‘Wow, I can’t believe how much I learned!’
RICHARD PATRICK: A lot of stuff right there. (laughs)
AWAY-TEAM: Amazing stuff! (all laugh) You mentioned “Watch The Sun Come Out Tonight”, you’ve always been one to sort of defy convention, and I know you did this on The Trouble With Angels, you actually use a bit of vocal effects on that…
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah.
AWAY-TEAM: …which I’m normally not a big fan of, but your voice lends itself so well to it; not to mention that we all know you can sing your ass off without it…
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, that’s a vocoder. Rick James did a lot of that stuff.
JONNY RADTKE: It’s basically your voice coming through a keyboard.
AWAY-TEAM: Yeah, like a synthesized voice.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, it’s totally an effect, and see that’s the thing. The first entire record was all programmed drums, on purpose, ya know fingers out (extends both middle fingers). We don’t need a neve console, we need this fucking computer and we’re gonna make it work. And then we’re gonna run it through a neve console, and mix it, and that was the idea. We were just literally leaving Nine Inch Nails, and before when Trent and I were working together in Nine Inch Nails we were listening to bands like Ministry and Skinny Puppy. I was never gonna be in a rock band again with like, the regular format. Because once you experience all the different crazy sounds you can make on a computer, you gotta take that. Now “The Inevitable Relapse”, I took a lot of shit for that, apparently I’m allowed to use drum machines, but I’m not allowed to use an obvious effect. Because the song is about going to the club to score, and then the “relapse” is “Drink it, Drink it, Snort it, Smoke it.” I took a lot of shit for that, and undeservedly so.
AWAY-TEAM: I’d have to agree with that. Now there are certain people who make their entire career out of that…
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, I mean I understand getting sick of Chris Brown and stuff like that, but dude. The interesting about that is, here’s this effect and it’s in your industrial rock band for half a second to make you feel like you were in the club, and then it’s all back to normal vocals.
AWAY-TEAM: Yeah, it’s not very long at all.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, and it was the first song that was released to the fans, and they shit the bed, and completely freaked out like ‘Oh my God are you gonna do this?’ And I was just like ‘Oh God, here we go.’
JONNY RADTKE: But now with this song, I think it’s…
RICHARD PATRICK: That song is, honestly we stole that idea from The Deftones so we’re not even the first band to do that.
AWAY-TEAM: Over the course of your career, you’ve done a few cover songs, what’s the coolest cover you’ve ever heard of one of your songs?
RICHARD PATRICK: Well you know what, Brooke White sang “Take A Picture”, and we have the copy because we’re trying to do some stuff with it in film. It’s actually Brooke White, the song, and Mitch Marlow has done some stuff with it. It’s an amazing cover, maybe we’ll get that released somehow. Then there’s all kinds of people doing “Hey Man, Nice Shot”, it’s kinda wild. Then I met Shaun Morgan from Seether, and I was like (in a low, mean sounding voice) “Yeah I heard your cover.” (all laugh) But I was just messing with him, he’s a great guy, he said some good things to me. It’s a flattering, amazing thing that people would cover your music. You know who else did it, Lifehouse did “Take A Picture”; so there’s a whole bunch of people out there covering our stuff.
AWAY-TEAM: One of your covers, “Happy Together”, is now being featured in the movie The Great Gatsby.
Speaking of movies, obviously you’re the rock star of the family, and your brother is a successful actor, and it’s often been said that every singer wants to be an actor, and every actor a singer. Have you guys ever talked about anything like that, has Robert ever been like ‘Hey man, let me…
RICHARD PATRICK: Performance is amazing! He did, he was trying to get me to be an actor back when I was in my drug phase so I wasn’t into it. Performing is awesome, and when you have an opportunity to look into a camera or act in something, Jonny and I actually acted in our video. We had a cameo role in our video for “What Do You Say”, which is a great little short movie.
JONNY RADTKE: Yeah, it’ll be out soon. We both had this little acting cameo.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, it was like ‘Look upset.’ or ‘Look like you’re thinking about it.’ (all laugh)
JONNY RADTKE: Cook that steak! (laughs)
RICHARD PATRICK: Cook that fucking steak! (laughs)
JONNY RADTKE: I think this dude would be an amazing actor! We fuck around all the time on the tour bus, we’re like brothers. If we’re not focused on work related stuff, we’re joking about stuff. He’s got his routines and shit, I think he would be perfect. You could see him in like a Vince Vaughn, you know that squad of dudes, Vince Vaughn, Ben Stiller, all those guys, Jonah Hill…
AWAY-TEAM: Well I got to see his Forrest Gump first-hand! (all laugh) [Editors Note: Prior to the commencement of recording, we engaged in an ice-breaking conversation that culminated in Richard comparing his life to that of Forrest Gump, and doing a hilarious impersonation of him]
JONNY RADTKE: I’d actually like to see him in a film. I think he could do it. I think he could also do dramatic work as well. Me, on the other hand, I don’t know. I’m not an actor, and never really thought of myself as one! (laughs)
RICHARD PATRICK: I think you could easily do it. I think performing is all linked up man! Writing, performing, creativity; it’s all hooked up in some way. Even though my brother Robert does not have a musical bone in his body! Check out Filter-So I Quit w/Robert Patrick; it’s amazingly funny!
AWAY-TEAM: I definitely will! (laughs) You’re also close to an Academy Award Winner in your former bandmate, and friend, Trent Reznor…
RICHARD PATRICK: T-Rez!
AWAY-TEAM: He’s just announced that he’s got this creative fire burning inside, and he’s bringing back Nine Inch Nails to release a new album.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, which I knew about for a couple months. (laughs) I didn’t wanna say anything…
AWAY-TEAM: (laughs) Let me ask you this, I know when you were a member of the band you didn’t really get to record too much with him; is that something you guys have ever talked about? Maybe doing some sort of collaborating in the future? You know, not necessarily for either band, but in general?
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, I mean I think it’d be interesting if I sang on something. He had a thing that he was trying to do called Tapeworm, he asked me if I wanted to do something with that, I don;t know if that ever saw the light of day, but… He’s asked me, and now that I’m older, I certainly would wanna do it. When I was younger I was too nervous, too crazy, you know it was back when I was drinking, crazy addict reporting from gonzo land! (all laugh) But the short answer is absolutely, I’d love to do something. I’d love to sing on something, I’m sure he’s got a bunch of music, ya know. (Trent, I hope you’re listening!!!)
AWAY-TEAM: Speaking of former bandmates, Frank Cavanaugh had some pretty harsh comments for you after an incident in which your wife was nearly run off the road because she had a bumper sticker that said “Ban Assault Weapons”…
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah. (seemingly puzzled by the comments)
AWAY-TEAM: Really strange. The first thing I thought of, ya know Frank’s a military guy, and most military guys I know are staunch conservatives…
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah it’s kinda wild…
AWAY-TEAM: …you’re a liberal. That must have made for some tough times touring, and working together…
RICHARD PATRICK: I was out of my mind when I was younger. I didn’t really have any political stance.
AWAY-TEAM: Have you spoken to Frank since everything?
RICHARD PATRICK: Ya know Frank…
JONNY RADTKE: I talk to Frank all the time, and right before that happened it was like…
RICHARD PATRICK: You talk to him on the phone?
JONNY RADTKE: We text, we email, he’s been a friend of mine for quite a long time. Every time I come through Texas, he’d come to shows. But yeah, when I saw that comment that Frank left I was like ‘Whoa!’
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, because I had said something like ‘The Tea Party’…
JONNY RADTKE: We were talking about our opinion on gun control, which is to ban assault weapons, and he kinda jumped on Rich about that!
RICHARD PATRICK: He jumped on it, he was like ‘I can’t believe you would say we’re all treasounous’, and I’m like “You’re obstructing the constitution. You’re obstructing getting the government working. You’re attacking the government. That’s treason to me.” The United States operates with a manual, and it’s called The Constitution. It’s an instruction pamphlet from the people that made the country, and you need to follow it! Filibustering 250 times in the Senate, to block every single thing that the president wants to try and work on, isn’t what we voted for! We voted for common sense! The Bush Administration had eight years, they were filibustered six times. The Obama Administration is not even through it’s fifth year, and it’s had 250 filibusters in the Senate. What the fuck is going on? Because I want a vote on gun control, eighty percent of the people in the United States want a background check. Every single thing that they’re talking about, in Sandy Hook he fumbled on the second clip, so he was putting the 30-60 rounds, and he dropped the first one and fumbled, eleven children ran out the door. Got the clip in, killed twenty, so practicality, common sense; the laws of this country are what separate us from anarchy, right? Society is based on laws, it’s based on rules. We wanna ban anything beyond eleven bullets, or ten bullets, apparently that’s an attack on the 2nd Amendment right. Okay, so you can’t have a grenade, you can’t have bazookas, but you can have a machine gun that fires as many times as you want. So it’s essentially an automatic weapon, somehow that’s an attack on the 2nd Amendment. Well, maybe we should look at the 2nd Amendment. This is just three gentlemen sitting here talking about this, my wife, we have a “Ban Assault Weapons” sticker on our car because why not? They’re not practical! You don’t need them, and if we’re in an arms race with our government, well they have the Atomic Bomb, they have tanks, they have more Abrams tanks than you could imagine! So if there’s a domestic dispute, they’ve got like 10,000 tanks; roll that into any fucking major city, and you’re done! I don’t understand what they’re going for. when I think about Ted Nugent, it blows my mind. I almost hear a panicked gun nut, not too far away from where David Koresh was! It’s like ‘Dude, chill the fuck out!!!‘, ya know? I’ve never owned a gun in my life. I’ve shot some guns, what’s the big fucking deal!!! You shoot a gun, ‘Wow I’ve hit the target!’, whoopty-fucking-do!!! Action movies are great, I love action movies, I don’t wanna go out and fucking kill anybody! It’s availability, it’s availability to the VT guy, it’s availability to the Columbine guys. It’s gun show loopholes, you know I went to a gun show once and they were like ‘So have you ever been arrested for a felony?’ and I’m like ‘Oh yeah, absolutely. Felonious assault with a can of beer.’ They’re like (in his best redneck voice) ‘Dammit son, you’re not supposed to say that! You’re supposed to lie!’ And I’m like ‘Really? I don’t want a gun.’ (cue redneck voice again) ‘Oh I thought you wanted to buy this thing.’ ‘No I don’t. I actually was just looking at it.’ (redneck voice) ‘Alright, well I didn’t hear anything anyways’. They don’t give a fuck, they just wanna sell guns, they don’t give a fuck who they’re selling them to! I don’t know, I’m so far left I’m in the middle. I’m so far left of the Tea Party, I’m moderately in the middle! I talk to Republicans all the time, and I’m like ‘So what about banning assault weapons?’ and they’re like ‘Okay, it’s practical.’ I’m like ‘You’re a Republican. What the fuck happened to your party?!!!’ It’s Tea-publicans! That’s who’s running the government! They’re using the stunt that, every time school’s in session, they’re pulling the fucking fire alarm! So every time everybody wants to get together for school, they pull the filibuster fire alarm! When are Americans gonna figure that out? These are the same people that (return of the redneck voice hilarity) ‘Know there’s something going on out there in that Area 51, and it’s aliens, I’ma tell ya!’ It’s the same shit, they’re the same fucking folks! (Redneck voice over the laughter of Jonny and myself) ‘I know that JFK was assassinated by the CIA back it the day! That’s the real story! What Lee Harvey Oswald, he was the guy in the grassy knolllll!!!!!!’ That’s who’s doing this shit! I don’t like it!
AWAY-TEAM: I’m a gun owner, but it’s for the protection of my family…
RICHARD PATRICK: You know what? I’ve probably been a gun owner at some point in my life.
AWAY-TEAM: It’s crazy nowadays, with the home invasions and shit! I’ve got a daughter almost the same age as yours, and I need to protect my family! But I’m a RESPONSIBLE gun owner, I keep it in a safe etc., etc…
RICHARD PATRICK: I honestly, the minute I get a chance, I’m gonna go buy a shotgun. I’m gonna buy a shotgun, I want a 12 gauge pump shotgun. I don’t want the big, huge, ridiculous long one. I just want the pump one that’s kinda shorter. Literally just to kinda scatter some bird shot, and that’s it. I understand the necessity to own a weapon, and lock it up in a safe, and put a lock on the trigger, and your kids can never find it. It’s only memorized in your head somewhere, or locked away on a hard drive somewhere. I stand behind my open-ended request to debate Rush Limbaugh and Ted Nugent. The debate’s gonna be simple, cuz I’m just gonna ask some questions and let them rant on about like (Limbaugh voice) ‘Buh, duh, duh. It’s just a scare tactic by Democrats. Global warming is totally made up by the Obama Administration. Who we all know resides in Kenya.’ You know, it’s just like their crazy wacko fucking shit! (laughs) I wanna ask Rush Limbaugh to his face, “Dude, I make music. I’m trying to bring people together, and I’m trying to make the world a better place. What are you doing? Cuz I know you’re rich, you’ve already made your money.’ But stirring up the fringe? How can that be, I know Bill O’Reilly’s like ‘Hey I don’t care, I’m doing it for the money.’ There’s guys that wanna hear the Democratic point of view, the liberal stuff. The far right is way crazier! What’s the worst thing a Democrat has done? What’s the worst thing? Are they denouncing science? Maybe they’re denouncing religion in schools, actually I don’t want a fucking church in my school! I want the church at church! What is so wrong from the liberal point of view? Where are the liberal extremists? What, PETA? Or the people trying to get between toxic waste dumping out in the ocean? I don’t know, some of the extreme far left, with the burning of those houses for infringing on forests, I get that. I’m against that, no one should burn someone’s property. How is it somehow the Obama Administration is the far left?
AWAY-TEAM: So we’re here for the opening night of the Summerland Tour with your band, Filter, as well as Sponge (whose sound check graced our eardrums throughout this interview), Live, and Everclear. What’s the band you most look forward to seeing tonight?
JONNY RADTKE: I can’t wait to see all of them!
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah. I mean, how are we gonna pick a favorite? They’re all awesome bands.
JONNY RADTKE: The other three bands have all had great success over the years. Really cool songs, and we’ve all known each other, for the most part, for many years. So already today’s been kind of a ‘Hey it’s good to see you again’
AWAY-TEAM: High School Reunion type of thing.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, yeah.
JONNY RADTKE: It’s gonna be fun for all the fans, but it’s a treat for all of us too. For all of us to be back in a room together, and hanging out.
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah.
AWAY-TEAM: So let’s see it! What did you get?
RICHARD PATRICK: (shows arm)
AWAY-TEAM: Oh nice, for Sloan. (Rich’s daughter) That’s cool!
RICHARD PATRICK: My daughter Sloan. She is so, she’s just got such an amazing go-getter attitude. Just fearless, ya know. First day of pre-school she’s marching into pre-school holding her bags, her backpack was bigger that her, and she’s like ‘Let’s go!’ (laughs) She walks in ‘Whatta ya got here?’ Ya know, puts it in her little cubbie at school and just like...
AWAY-TEAM: Yeah, they’re amazing. They’re life changers!
RICHARD PATRICK: Yeah, and the funny thing is that a million years ago, it was that emotional bond that made us more successful, way more so than all of the other bi-peds. The brain would start to get bigger to grow more emotional. So having all of these super strong emotional ties, the byproduct of that is what gave us all of this intelligence. Isn’t that amazing? So when you have a kid, you’re so connected, and it’s like ‘I have to live as long as I possibly can. I have to take care of myself’ (laughs) When I was 30, I did not care. I was like ‘I don’t wanna be 40. I don’t give a fuck. I’d rather die. Who cares?’ I was like ‘I’m good. Became a rock star. Sold millions of records…’ Then all of a sudden when you have kids you’re like ‘Nope. I need to see her grow up. I need to protect her when she’s 30, 40, 50. I’m gonna eat my spinach.’
AWAY-TEAM: Yeah I know, it’s amazing what they do to us! Well hey, thank you both!
RICHARD PATRICK & JONNY RADTKE: Thank You!
AWAY-TEAM: It’s been a huge honor, and a great pleasure to speak with both of you, and I look forward to seeing you tear it up out there tonight! (And tear it up they did!)
RICHARD PATRICK: It’s gonna be great! We’re looking forward to it!
JONNY RADTKE: Thanks for coming out!
For more info including Tour Dates and to purchase music and merch visit Filter’s Official Website.
Special thanks go out to Richard and Jonny for so graciously giving me their time, and to Julie Lichtenstein at Wind-Up Records for making it all happen!
Rockwave will feature seminal alternative rock bands Jane’s Addiction and Stone Temple Pilots with Chester Bennington, along with performances from Filter, Anberlin, Beware Of Darkness, and an opening band TBA performing on the Monster Main Stage.
A special discounted ticket pre-sale for Rockwave Festival will take place from July 16-18 at www.rockwavefest.com. During the pre-sale, a limited number of discounted general admission tickets will be available for purchase for the following prices (plus fees):
“I’m super excited to help launch the new 96 K-ROCK radio station in Ft. Myers, with Jane’s Addiction and Stone Temple Pilots, Filter, Anberlin and one of my new favorite acts Beware Of Darkness,” says festival creator/producer Danny Wimmer of Danny Wimmer Presents. “What a great party it’s going to be to close out the summer.”
Regularly priced general admission and VIP tickets go on sale Friday, July 19 at 10:00 AM Eastern Time at www.rockwavefest.com, Ticketmaster.com and at all Ticketmaster outlets. Beginning July 19, General Admission tickets will be $45.00 (plus fees) and VIP tickets will be $89.50 (plus fees). Doors open at 1:00 PM.
VIP tickets include: a VIP entrance to venue; access to VIP lounge area featuring dedicated bar, beverage and food service; viewing of main stage (seated and standing areas); seated area with shade for dining and private restroom facilities; and a VIP guest laminate.
96 K-ROCK presents Rockwave Festival is produced by Danny Wimmer Presents and AEG Live, part of the team that produces the massively successful Rock On The Range, Carolina Rebellion, Welcome To Rockville, and Fort Myers’ own Fort Rock festival. 96 K-ROCK presents Rockwave Festival is fueled by Monster Energy.
JetBlue Park is the spring training home of the Boston Red Sox and is located at 11500 Fenway South Drive in Fort Myers, Florida. It’s also the home to the Fort Rock music festival, which debuted April 14, 2013.
For more info visit the Rockwave Festival’s Official Website.
Device, a collaboration featuring modern hard rock icon David Draiman of Disturbed, has announced a series of US tour dates. They will be kicking off a string of headline shows on April 10th in Mobile, AL and will be performing at several spring festivals. Gemini Syndrome and Nonpoint will support on select headline dates.
This tour will support the release of their self-titled debut album on April 9, 2013 via Warner Bros Records, which Draiman co-wrote and recorded with Geno Lenardo [formerly of Filter]. Upon finishing the writing and recording process, Draiman enlisted Evanescence drummer Will Hunt and Dope and Rock of Ages guitarist Virus; the three comprise the touring incarnation of Device.
Device is already getting praise for its sound. They are nominated for a Revolver Golden God Award for “Best New Talent” and Artist Direct declared “welcome to the 22nd century of rock.” First single “Vilify” has been most-added at radio for the past two weeks and is heading toward a Top 15 slot. Watch the video for the track here. Their self-titled debut can be pre-ordered via iTunes here.
The album features guest artists like Serj Tankian (System of a Down), Tom Morello (Rage Against the Machine), Geezer Butler (Black Sabbath), Glenn Hughes (Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Black Country Communion), M. Shadows (Avenged Sevenfold) and Lzzy Hale from Halestorm.
Device tour dates are as follows:
10-Apr – Mobile, AL – Soul Kitchen*
12-Apr – Ft. Lauderdale, FL – Culture Room*
13-Apr -Orlando, FL – Tinker Field – WJRR Earth Day Birth Day
14-Apr – Ft. Myers, FL – Fort Rock Festival
16-Apr – Destin, FL – Club LA**
17-Apr -Huntsville, AL -Sammy T’s**
20-Apr – Tyler, TX – Click’s**
21-Apr – Lubbock, TX – Lonestar Amphitheatre – KFMX Show
23-Apr – Dallas, TX – Trees**
25-Apr – Houston, TX – Scout Bar**
26-Apr – Beaumont, TX – The Gig**
28-Apr – Jacksonville, FL – Welcome to Rockville Festival
30-Apr – New Orleans, LA – House of Blues**
1-May – Little Rock, AR – Juanitas**
3-May – Atlanta, GA -Centerstage*
4-May – Rockingham, NC -Carolina Rebellion Festival
*with Gemini Syndrome
**with Gemini Syndrome and Nonpoint
ShipRocked 2012 has partnered with Sixx Sense–the national radio show hosted by Nikki Sixx and Kerri Kasem–to give away a trip for two on this year’s ShipRocked cruise. From April 30 through May 16, 2012, Sixx Sense listeners can enter the ShipRocked giveaway online at: www.sixxsense.com/pages/contests/sixxshiprocked.
Now in its fourth year, ShipRocked–Fueled by Monster Energy–is the ultimate rock music cruise vacation. The 2012 cruise features Godsmack, Five Finger Death Punch, P.O.D., Sevendust, Filter, Fuel, Black Stone Cherry, Lit, Geoff Tate (Queensrÿche), Gilby Clarke (ex-Guns N’ Roses), In This Moment and more onboard from November 27 through December 1.
ShipRocked embarks from and returns to Fort Lauderdale, FL, providing guests with four days and nights of music and parties–along with a little relaxation–onboard the MSC Poesia. Ports of call this year include Key West, FL and Nassau, Bahamas (subject to change).
The Sixx Sense grand prize winner will receive:
• One Oceanview Stateroom for 2 people onboard ShipRocked 2012
• 4-Night Caribbean cruise vacation onboard the MSC Poesia, from Fort Lauderdale to Key West and Nassau
• 2 Round trip coach airfares to Ft. Lauderdale
• 1-Night standard hotel room in Ft. Lauderdale
• Free entry to all ShipRocked concerts, meet and greets, artist hosted events and other activities.
• Complimentary food and non-alcoholic beverages, including 24-7 room service
Have you ever been entranced by a band at first listen? Knowing that, even though you can’t pinpoint it, there’s something special about that band? Revelation Theory, as they were known then, first took our ears by storm back in 2005 with the hit single “Slowburn”. I remember being taken back by the soaring vocals of Rich Luzzi, backed by the harmonies of Matty McCloskey, and the heavy riffs of Julien Jorgensen, and having just that feeling. Turns out I have good instincts. Since then, they’ve added more fuel to that “Slowburn” with the addition of killer axe man Rikki Lixx, an abbreviated name, and a sophomore album that produced four hit singles. Six years later, as Rev Theory prepares to release their third major label effort entitled “Justice”, I had a chance to chat with guitarist Julien Jorgensen about everything from producers to presidents. Keep reading, but be careful… my theory is that this “Slowburn” is about to become an inferno!
AWAY-TEAM: First off I wanna congratulate you on the upcoming tour, and the release of your new album “Justice”, which hits stores Feb. 15th. It’s an amazing piece of work.
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Thanks bro!
AWAY-TEAM: Your last album “Light It Up” was a tremendous success. This time around you’ve enlisted the services of super-producer Terry Date. Aside from his stellar resume, what made you pick a guy like Terry?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Umm, I think it was just obviously, like you said, we’re such big fans of all the records he’s done, and the bands he’s worked with. And ya know, I talked to my A & R guy in Kansas City, we were playing Rockfest in 2008 I think it was, we were in the middle of the cycle for “Light It Up”, and… I’m sorry 2009, and he had said to me “Man, to capture the sound and energy of you guys live…”, which is what we wanted to do, “I think Terry Date would be perfect”. I looked at him and was like “Absolutely”. So he reached out to Terry, and Terry was interested, and we felt like it was just the right fit. Definitely the right guy for the music, and the record we were making.
AWAY-TEAM: Was there a certain quality that you feel like Terry was able to bring out in you this time around? I mean, what was the recording process like?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Terry is great at capturing the true essence of the band. And ya know, he’s really great at capturing the character of a band. I think that’s why his records stand the test of time. Recording with him was awesome, he pushed us to… basically we recorded the bass and the drums live off the floor. The record was really raw, and it was a really good experience. We didn’t take any shortcuts, we really dug into the parts, and he was just a wealth of knowledge. So the whole process was awesome, from stories from what he had done before, to all the little tricks he had up his sleeve, the whole thing was just a treat man. It was a good time.
AWAY-TEAM: On first listen, the title track “Justice” gives you the impression that the song was written for a certain someone in Washington, D.C. The video for the song even further supports that belief. Is that a correct assumption to make?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Well, I think ya know, we had written the song a while back with some good friends of ours… our intention was kind of a bit political, we were a little bit upset about what was going on in the country at the time. We’re really not a politically driven band, so we weren’t really going to use the song, and it sort of brought itself back into the fold when we were writing this record. We just felt it was indicative of a lot of things we were going through. Ya know, socially, stuff that we were pissed off about in our own industry. Just a little frustration going on in the music industry in general. So we felt like it was the perfect song, it says a lot about our fight, what we’ve been through the last eight years as a band. It also encompasses the full body of the record as a whole, so we felt like it was the right song to use as the title track.
AWAY-TEAM: The song “Hollow Man” features your bassist, Matt McCloskey singing leads. How did that come to be?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: It was just… Matt had actually written that song when we were on tour, probably a year and a half ago. It was just one of those that came out in the back of the bus, and literally made it all the way through. And I think it made it because it was just a real honest song, and Matty had sung it originally and just kinda did it on the record as well. It was from him, and from his soul it sounded great with him singing.
AWAY-TEAM: So was this just a one shot deal? Or is this maybe the start of an Alice in Chains type thing where, as Jerry Cantrell would put it, you have two lead singers?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Well, I mean we’ve sort of felt that way for a long time, we just never had the right opportunity to showcase it. I think that this record we do alot of sort of, I mean obviously we’ve done alot of harmonies in the past, there’s alot of counter-melodies and counter-vocals in there. We just try to feature Matty as much as possible, and we feel like this song is definitely the stepping stone…
AWAY-TEAM: With the last album, the WWE took notice. They actually made “Light It Up” the theme song for Wrestlemania 24. Then you went on even further to work with them, giving them “Hell Yeah” and “Voices”, and you were even part of a WWE skit?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Yeah, we did a couple of skits with them backstage. It was actually pretty funny, we’re big fans of Festus and Biscuits and Gravy…Jesse & Festus, they’re funny, they’re characters. So we actually got to do some skits with them backstage. It was fun.
AWAY-TEAM: Cool! Now “Enemy Within” seems like a song that’s tailor made for the WWE. What inspired that song? And are there any plans for the WWE to use any of the songs off of “Justice”?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: That song was written as a full collaboration with the whole band. I’m really proud of that song. It’s just a sort of “Take the world over” song, and “take a look at yourself in the mirror”, and all that type of thing. We felt like it was a bad-ass tune, I mean if you think it could be for the WWE that’s cool. We wrote it kind of for ourselves, and it’s fun to play live so we’re excited to put that one in the set for sure.
AWAY-TEAM:As we speak, you guys are on the road making the 20 hour drive up to Denver. You guys have toured relentlessly, and with a new album to kick off 2011, there appears to be no end in sight. When you’re out on the road like that, how do you escape and find solace, just to keep from going insane?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Well this one’s a little.. we’re on a radio tour right now, we’re in a van and it’s really close quarters. We’re actually having a bit of fun with it, because we haven’t done something like this in a while. We’d been fortunate to have a bus during the last touring cycle; we’re all taking turns driving, and so we haven’t had much time away from each other in the last two weeks. When we are on the road in the bus each of us have things we do during the day to kind of… we have our own tour regiments, ya know, some of us like to go to the gym and at least get a shower, and other guys just chill in the back, play video games, and watch movies. Ya know, write songs, nap… some guys nap a lot, ya know what I mean? (laughs)
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Everyone’s got their own thing, and when it comes to like an hour and a half before gametime, before the show, we all start getting in the same mode. We have a pre-game warmup that we all rock out to, and we put a playlist together, and the cameraderie kicks in, and we take the stage together. So when it’s like an hour out, we’re ready to go.
AWAY-TEAM: What do you do to get amped up for a show like that? Is there a certain song or album you listen to?
JULIEN JORGNSEN: Yeah. We have a ton of go-to’s. I mean, on the last record, the last cycle we had “Whiskey in the Morning” by Buckcherry, some newer stuff from Filter, we had some Avenged Sevenfold, some Pantera on there. Followed by some Jäger and some Monster Energy Drinks. We have the Matty Mayhem special cocktail, which consists of Monster Energy Drink, and the Monster shots (The Hitmen), and Jäger. So we usually pound a few of those before we go out there.
AWAY-TEAM: (laughs) Sounds like you’d have to pound them! Holy Shit!
JULIEN JORGENSEN: (laughing) It’s a good time brother, it’s a good time. Well back in the day we used to drink Jäger and Monster out of a bowl. Cuz we didn’t have cups, ya know we drank them out of those cereal bowls.
AWAY-TEAM: (laughing) Lap it up!
JULIEN JORGENSEN: (laughs) We’ve graduated to shot cups that Jäger gave us.
AWAY-TEAM: (laughs) Despite the tremendous success of “Light It Up”, ya know, aside from the wrestling fans and the true rock fans, to the casual fan Rev Theory is still a bit of an unknown for some reason which is a sin. Is that a role you’re comfortable with? Or crave? Ya know, cuz some bands don’t want the spotlight if it means sacrificing who they are. Or is that something you’d like to change?
JULIEN JORGENSEN: I mean, we wanna get our music out there to as many people as we can. Ya know I think that the last record was a great stepping stone for us. I think it got our music out to alot of people, and I think that we’ll be able to kinda build on the success of that, and I think this record is that record to do it. I think it’s a defining record for our band, and we’re really proud of the whole record. We’re really excited to present this, I think that if we can get it to the people’s ears, they really gonna dig it. It’s not that we love the spotlight, but we’d definitely love to grow the band, and grow the listenership because we feel like we have a really great record.
AWAY-TEAM: I agree. I think after this one you’ll be drinking outta pint glasses. (laughs)
JULIEN JORGENSEN: (laughs) That is awesome. I hope so brother, I hope so.
AWAY-TEAM: Well hey man, thanks for your time. It’s been a great pleasure. Best of luck with the new album and the tour, I know you’re gonna do great. Look forward to seeing you when you make your way through Florida, and we’ll do this again.
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Yeah man. Stay in touch. Come out to a show.
AWAY-TEAM: For sure. Thanks again Julien, talk to you soon.
JULIEN JORGENSEN: Be good. Thanks Jason. Bye.
Rev Theory’s latest album “Justice” hits stores February 15th, and the Monster Energy Outbreak Tour featuring Rev Theory, Pop Evil, Hail the Villain, and The Black Cloud Collective kicks off February 16th in Phoenix. For more info on Rev Theory including tour dates, and to find out where to purchase music and merchandise visit http://www.revtheory.com/
Special thanks to Julien Jorgensen for making the time to speak with me, and to Steve Karas at SKH Music for making it all happen.
The Trouble with Angels
Rocket Science Ventures
9 out of 10
Richard Patrick first gained attention as the guitarist for NINE INCH NAILS. His only recorded material with them was on the end of ‘Sanctified’ off Pretty Hate Machine, but he toured/performed with NIN from 1989-93. He left NIN forming FILTER and released Short Bus in 1995. More rock than industrial, FILTER took off in a big way, but it wasn’t until their second album Title of Record that they gained huge commercial success with the single ‘Take a Picture’.
A full studio album and greatest hits compilation not to mention a plethora of soundtrack singles round out Filter’s studio work.
FILTER is back now with a new studio album The Trouble With Angels and from what I’ve heard of the new album so far (giving it a 2nd spin as I write this), the album is harder, heavier, more electronic than anything since Short Bus. Gone is the commercial gleam, and slick sound that permeated later FILTER albums.
The Trouble with Angels starts off with static laced am radio sounding vocals that kicks into a gritty guitar riff and the lyrics, ‘Come along Sally let’s have a break down’. This is ‘Drug Boy’, and it is as dirty and gritty as any back street dime bag shooting alley you can imagine. The demonic reverberated screams throughout the bridge would bring any fiend to his knees begging for sobriety and sanity instantly. A straight forward rock riff over laced with pulsating drums and a bass line that makes your blood simmer in your veins lends itself very well to the melodic chorus that
FILTER has been known for. But this is no ‘Picture’ ballad. This is balls out FILTER at their best.
For the radio rock “we must have a ‘Take a Picture’ ballad” folks out there. FILTER offers up ‘No Love’ to you, but again, this is no overly produced slick sticky sweet ballad. Once the chorus kicks in, and the scream of ‘No Love’ rings out the teeny boppers out there might just switch the station. But that would be doing FILTER and this song a grave disservice. Sit back, give it a listen, and let the music and message sink in. You’ll thank me for it later.
‘No Re-Entry’ is a psychedelic tripalicious love scorn ballad complete with noise/muse rock keyboards filling out and flowing out (of) the song nicely.
Overall the album has a much heavier electronic feel than albums past. Drum loops, noise loops, and wicked vocal effects layers each song, making it impossible to get the full effect even after multiple listens. This is why this album works so well. You can’t get it all immediately. It takes several listens for you to get everything that happens in each and every song. This makes the album last. This is what makes a great album. Every time you put it on, you hear something new. The songs never get old, because you constantly are introduced to something missed in prior listenings.
I was a little hesitant when I first put this on as Short Bus was the pinnacle of FILTER for me. But I’m here to tell you that The Trouble with Angels may actually be two steps better and beyond their debut!
The Trouble with Angels will be released August 17th.